The idea of addressing someone so informally was hard for her to grasp. She was surprised that Men even managed to catch it. She would've been happy to continue addressing Ren as 'Men's father' whenever the boy was around. But it seems that he wouldn't stand for it.

Glancing towards Ren, she wouldn't override her teachings just to satisfy Men's demands, "Would that be suitable with you?" After all, trespassing that boundary without his consent simply wouldn't do either.